[SUBMISSION]: Allied Marines
- DBJ87
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- Wicked
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yuraofthehairfan wrote: Sweet can't wait for this to get in
got plans for them
Can't wait either (fingers crossed)
. It's been a long, massive learning curve and have enjoyed every second of it. The suggestion for colour blending was a big step forward to variety too and I can't thank you enough for suggesting it & helping me through it. Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- yuraofthehairfan
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- Demon
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mmm there is one idea I have but not sure if I should bring it up because it about done but on skull tag they have marines that are tied up and you can free them and then help you some one had that in a marine set a few years ago before the site was hacked but I'll half to look up the name when I get time Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- DBJ87
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- Wicked
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yuraofthehairfan wrote: your welcome
I've seen them on Brutal Doom, I can get the sprites & a basic idea on the decorate detail from there. I'll see what I can do (keep the ball rolling while waiting), the concept is simple enough (never thought I'd say that when started this lol) as I've made more advanced marines that can drop sentry bots or summon "helper" monsters etc as Spawned items, so it's the same idea except they'd do it at set circumstances such as if they are attacked. (If the enter pain, x% chance they'll use an item) nothing like activating a trapped marine would be... I think, I've tried that once before (ages ago) but it just killed the marine when activated.
Not worked on "puzzle" items or actors that can be activated by player much, but I'll see what I can do. It'll only be with some of the weaker variants of Marine, melee, pistol, shotguns, or semi-automatics. Freeing somebody with a Rocket Launcher, BFG-9000 or a Flamethrower would suicidal.
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- yuraofthehairfan
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- Demon
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- DBJ87
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- Wicked
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- DBJ87
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- Wicked
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As far this project goes, it is finished and ready for submission.
I will start looking into the captured marines idea, the extensive behaviour changes like Brutal Doom has for the Allied Marines or what Alando1 had for a project he'd done with Allied Marines really isn't what I'm aiming for (I've got a seperate project with that set up), I'm trying to avoid this because the Marines tend to be unstoppable killing machines, usually killed by crossfire from the player or by bosses rather than being taken out by weaker enemies such as Demons, Zombies, Imps or slow moving flying enemies.
It's the transition from changing one actor to another (a captured Marine to a random Ally) that I'd be focusing on for this idea. I tried it once a while back with the shootable Bound Marines but when you activate them, they just died (although back then (about 2 years ago) I also had little understanding of Spawning External Items)
Well, that's done quicker than expected
Created a captive Ally from Skulltag & Captain Toenail's Bound Marines, giving you the option of killing him for a couple of Stimpacks or finding* a way to free them. They will then Emerge as one of the Allies with the lower tier weapons, no explosives the most powerful guys that can be rescued have either a Minigun, Plasmagun or Super-Shotgun but it's always random. Dead Allies can't be activated, given them an inventory item when killed or freed to stop them respawning from death.*You or an enemy can activate any marine but the player can't activate the Marine itself as if it was a switch, it'll need to be tagged etc like a Switchable Decoration.
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Again. There isn't anything else that needs to be added. Marine's are balanced, there is a huge amount of variety on offer with this submission, only other thing would be to add the Marines I cut out (left out to save space, most will be ignored & that too much will ruin it), I've given you the "essential" & most expected Marines the UAC has on offer
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- yuraofthehairfan
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- Demon
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- DBJ87
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- Wicked
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- MagicWazard
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- DBJ87
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- Wicked
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MagicWazard wrote: Have you tried adding the flag +USESPECIAL on the captive Marines? This might be what you need to be able to "activate" them to free them.
No, that completely slipped my mind, but I will try it now (reading about it & +BUMPSPECIAL) on the ZDoom WIKI after you've suggested this...
**4 hours Later**
I have now tested several ways of using & activating the Marines with +USESPECIAL and have managed to get some results, added full details into the Submission's CAPTIVES section, with some links to ZDoom Wiki for references. File is now updated with Marines that can be freed by Player, but I suggest users read the CAPTIVES section...
Thank you for your help & feedback
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